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Duralast vs Hitachi (OEM) IAC (finally solved high startup flare) + comparison pics

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Back in Jan 2022, while trying to figure out a lean condition, I bought a Duralast IAC and noticed straight away that the engine started flaring up quite high on startup.

At the time I didn't think much of it, wrongly assuming that the new part was doing something correctly that the old part wasn't, when in actuality I can now say with some certainty that the old part (OEM) was not faulty at all.

This winter I'm up in Tahoe, and the cold start flare was particularly bad and sustained. Perhaps it's the greater density of the frigid air? It even flares to 2k when restarted hot, even if only 5 mins have passed. I do the 'poor man's pre-oil' (WOT to crank and release after a few seconds) so I'm not super worried about the engine spinning so fast straight away. That said, I didn't love how it started aggresively in the morning when the oil is so thick from overnight temps well below freezing.

I did some reading and decided to try and find an OEM (Hitachi) brand IAC. This is supposed to use a proper solonoid, and not a stepper motor.

When I got the part I compared it to the Duralast one and found something very interesting. Check out the pictures attached.

Between the OEM and Duralast IACs, there is a huge difference in the 'resting' position of the valve. The Duralast valve is open much further and would thus allow for much more air to flow through. I don't know for sure if the valve sits in this exact position when the engine is first started, or whether the ECM in fact closes it upon engaging ignition. But based on my experience I would have to say this was the cause of my high startup flare.

Maybe it's an out of box failure, but I don't think so. A few months ago I bought another Duralast IAC and swapped it out to see if it had any effect. It didn't - same high startup flare (returned it after a couple of days).

The Hitachi one gives me a super soft startup now. It's great. On a cold start it reaches maybe 1200 / 1300. Warm restarts barely go above 1k. Throttle feels more responsive as well. If I blip the throttle from the engine bay, I get a quick kind of 'chirp' as the IAC instantly closes, then the RPMs settle quickly after letting go. Before they would kind of hang and gradually come down.

The part was hard to find. I got it from autoplicity:


$100 but worth it, imo. Maybe this is the cause of the lean CEL, since I've done almost everything else. After all, I could drive 500 miles on a hot engine and not get a code. But multiple cold starts would quickly bring it back. We'll see. Even if there's still an air leak somewhere (likely) I'm sure this part will help.

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Forgot to say - the best bit is that Duralast parts come with that lifetime warranty. So I was able to return the 2 year old IAC and get a full refund - $65 back!
 






Yep, Hitachi is the way to go if you can find one. I noticed how scarce they were 2-3 years ago, but was able to locate one as a spare at that time.
 






Yep, Hitachi is the way to go if you can find one. I noticed how scarce they were 2-3 years ago, but was able to locate one as a spare at that time.

I can't speak for other brands of aftermarket IACs, but I would still suggest to anyone looking for a replacement to try finding a used OEM part from a seller online or even a scrapyard or pick and pull before going 3rd party.
 






I bought a new motorcraft about 15-20 years ago and since then, when one acts up, just swap it out, and swap in the other one which I've already cleaned and lubed. If I had it to do over knowing what I do now, would have just cleaned and lubed the original instead of buying one. Of course this depends on how much wear there is.
 






I bought a new motorcraft about 15 years ago and since then, when one acts up, just swap it out, and swap in the other one which I've already cleaned and lubed. If I had it to do over knowing what I do now, would have just cleaned and lubed the original instead of buying one. Of course this depends on how much wear there is.

I'm curious to know what the Motorcraft one looks like - do you have pictures? Do you remember if it came in a Motorcraft box? Did it or does it say 'Made in Japan'?
 






It's identical to the hitachi which is the original manufacturer. Yes it came in a motorcraft box, It came in a "Ford Motor Company" box from the local Ford dealer parts dept, not motorcraft branded. Made in Japan, here is the end flap of that box.


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Looking through my files for the IAC, I see there was a topic here about IAC adjustment. I wonder if that could make the Duralast work properly by turning in the adjustment screw till the seal seats.


The thing is, if that doesn't work, and you defaced the new Duralast by pulling that screw cover plug out, I don't know if Autozone would have a problem with that... they might not even check, or not care. I don't know.
 






Please don’t return parts you modify. They may take it back, but odds are pretty good they won’t inspect it—it’ll end up on the shelf for some other poor asshole to buy.
 






Please don’t return parts you modify. They may take it back, but odds are pretty good they won’t inspect it—it’ll end up on the shelf for some other poor asshole to buy.
Hopefully the customer will inform them that it didn't work properly and they won't try to resell it. My comment was just about a situation where the person is *stuck* with one and doesn't have the refund option. I'd get a refund instead, given that option.
 






Looking through my files for the IAC, I see there was a topic here about IAC adjustment. I wonder if that could make the Duralast work properly by turning in the adjustment screw till the seal seats.


The thing is, if that doesn't work, and you defaced the new Duralast by pulling that screw cover plug out, I don't know if Autozone would have a problem with that... they might not even check, or not care. I don't know.

Ah, this thread. This thread is actually the reason I went back to looking at the IAC.
 












does yours have the ford PN engraved on it? trying to see if this is genuine part or not New Ford Escort Explorer Mercury Mountaineer 2-Pin Idle Air Control Valve SOHC + | eBay
Yes, I have one in my hand and on the 3 sides of the base, the first side has "1B13", 2nd side "97JF", 3rd side "9F715-BA".

However I have lost track of whether I currently have the original back on the vehicle or the replacement I bought, and since the number above does not exactly match the # on the box (97JZ-9F715-BA), I have to assume I am looking at the factory original.

What is pictured on that ebay page looks exactly like mine, even down to the tiny "4" cast into the recess in the bottom... hard to see in the pic, is upside down, but easily seen in person. Then again IDK if that really means anything, a company refurbishing one could take old ones and reuse that cast base and then it would also have the 4 cast into it.

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Here are some extra pictures of mine if it helps.

Different digits stamped on the outer edge, dunno what that means. I ended up using 'ABV0052' to hunt for mine, which I believe is the Hitachi part number?

One other thing to notice is the way the little black cap is. On the 3rd party it always seems to go diagonally in relative to the valve. On the Hitachi it goes in at 90 degrees. There's also that small metal square edge where the cap is, not present on the aftermarket. ***EDIT*** Actually, there is a Delphi part on O'Reilly's that is a spitting image in every way I can see compared to the Hitachi.

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Yes, I have one in my hand and on the 3 sides of the base, the first side has "1B13", 2nd side "97JF", 3rd side "9F715-BA".

However I have lost track of whether I currently have the original back on the vehicle or the replacement I bought, and since the number above does not exactly match the # on the box (97JZ-9F715-BA), I have to assume I am looking at the factory original.

What is pictured on that ebay page looks exactly like mine, even down to the tiny "4" cast into the recess in the bottom... hard to see in the pic, is upside down, but easily seen in person. Then again IDK if that really means anything, a company refurbishing one could take old ones and reuse that cast base and then it would also have the 4 cast into it.

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thats good news. will see ab ordering that one since the DL one still does high flare and this is the second DL, even turned the set screw in to where it barely idles and still starts at 2k. if it is a fake, then at the very least its a good fake 🤣
 






looking back at this pic i think this one had the hitachi before the DL :banghead:

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thats good news. will see ab ordering that one since the DL one still does high flare and this is the second DL, even turned the set screw in to where it barely idles and still starts at 2k. if it is a fake, then at the very least its a good fake 🤣

The strange thing is, if you check out all the pictures closely on this listing for the Duralast one, you will see inconsistencies in the design of the part!


Some of the pictures show the same features when compared to the Hitachi one, some of them show the part as it was with the two I went through that both flared at startup.

From what I've observed, I think the following circled things are where the key differences appear, and these are inconsistent on the Duralast listing...

Hitachi is always on the left, Duralast right. Single pic is Hitachi. Other than that - the bypass holes are slightly bigger on the Duralast, and ofc the larger indentations on the sides of the holes on the DL.

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The strange thing is, if you check out all the pictures closely on this listing for the Duralast one, you will see inconsistencies in the design of the part!


Some of the pictures show the same features when compared to the Hitachi one, some of them show the part as it was with the two I went through that both flared at startup.

From what I've observed, I think the following circled things are where the key differences appear, and these are inconsistent on the Duralast listing...

Hitachi is always on the left, Duralast right. Single pic is Hitachi.

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interesting. on the DL if you turnt he set screw in far enough that it doesnt start at 2k it just stalls hot or cold... will try the MC one and see if that works nay better...
 






interesting. on the DL if you turnt he set screw in far enough that it doesnt start at 2k it just stalls hot or cold... will try the MC one and see if that works nay better...

Good luck, I have a feeling it will work out with the new part.

One of the nice things is that I no longer grab the attention of everyone in the viciinity when starting my car in the supermarket parking lot...

I do wonder if my engine, or at least the timing components, would be in better shape if I had installed the OEM IAC 2 years ago, and started using the poor-man's preoil back then as well. Must have done thousands of high revving cold starts with those 2 seconds or so of dry rattling at startup...
 



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No doubt. Those high revving dry starts are what shatter cassettes
 






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